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06-17-09, 12:41 PM
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Arizona Senate OKs guns in eateries serving booze
Arizona Senate OKs guns in eateries serving booze
PHOENIX (AP) — The Arizona Senate has reversed itself and voted to allow people with concealed-carry permits to take handguns into restaurants that serve alcohol.
The Senate approved the bill on an 18-10 vote Tuesday, one day after it defeated the measure on a 14-14 tie when one supporter was absent. The bill now goes to the House.
Arizona law now generally bans possession of firearms in bars and restaurants selling alcohol.
Under the bill, a permit-holder carrying a weapon into a restaurant serving alcohol would not be allowed to drink. The measure would allow restaurants to deny entry by gun-toting citizens by posting a sign.
It also would reduce the misdemeanor penalty for bringing a gun into a restaurant that doesn't allow the weapons.
Supporters of the bill say the current ban deprives law-abiding citizens of the means to protect themselves and others, and subjects their guns to the risk of theft if they're left in parked vehicles.
"The people that have these permits are probably the most responsible gun owners that we have," Sen. Pam Gorman, R-Anthem, said during Monday's initial vote.
Critics say the change is perilous. "Alcohol and guns do not do well together," said Sen. Ken Cheuvront, D-Phoenix.
The bill covers all alcohol-serving establishments with kitchens that prepare food offered for onsite consumption.
Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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06-17-09, 01:16 PM
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06-17-09, 02:12 PM
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Sounds about like what we have here in Washington, without the misdemeanor.
Businesses can ban guns, but they can only ask you to leave - no charge.
Only a tavern or bar is a weapons free zone, not any old restaurant that serves alcohol. Law enforcement exempt even in taverns or bars.
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06-17-09, 07:52 PM
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The way I see it, if you don't need your weapon, no one will ever know you have it if you keep it concealed. If you need it, who cares about rules when your life is at stake. Goes back to I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6........
not that I condone breaking the law, but honestly, wha the hell is the difference? If you are not supose to drink while carrying, and you don't, then you are keeping up your end of the deal. why complicate shit?
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06-17-09, 08:37 PM
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why complicate shit?
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Cause thats how the world works...lol 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSO85360
The way I see it, if you don't need your weapon, no one will ever know you have it if you keep it concealed. If you need it, who cares about rules when your life is at stake. Goes back to I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6........
not that I condone breaking the law, but honestly, what the hell is the difference? If you are not suppose to drink while carrying, and you don't, then you are keeping up your end of the deal. why complicate shit?
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Cause thats how the world works...lol |
I'll have to agree with JSO here, but you know how it is. Someone out there is never happy unless they are complaining about something.
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