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Old 02-07-10, 12:07 PM
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Mobile County man has been to jail 97 times in 29 years, records show | Breaking News from the Press-Register - al.com Mobile County man has been to jail 97 times in 29 years, records show

By Jillian Kramer

February 07, 2010, 5:40AM

Click the image to open in full size.A series of jailhouse mugshots document some of William Bradley Bankston's visits to the Mobile County Metro Jail. The oldest pictured is from 1999, and the newest is from 2009.MOBILE, Ala. -- "You've been to jail 97 times?" the reporter inquired on a recent morning.

"Oh, probably more than that, ma'am," replied the man on the other end of the line, William Bradley Bankston.

In fact, the 47-year-old has been booked into Mobile County Metro Jail on freshly filed charges more times than anyone else in the modern era of record-keeping there.
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Old 02-07-10, 02:36 PM
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give them some real time that they MUST serve...
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Old 02-07-10, 02:55 PM
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Individuals as such are selfish and have no care to the drain they have on society or budgets. There are people who would say he has a disease and can't help himself. I do not exactly agree with that. There are treatments available for issues like this. Are they always successful? I suppose not.
Successful rehabilitations may very well depend on the person. I'm not a scientist. However, what has this guy done to rehabilitate himself? Contrary to popular belief rehabilitations are not a cure all. Neither is jail. A person cannot be rehabilitated until they decide to be rehabilitated. This type of behavior will continue without change. Forced medication is still viewed as unconstitutional. If not then I would recommend Antabuse. The side effects are the kind to get your mind right.
I don't see any positive conclusion to this kind of problem. Voluntary compliance doesn't seem to be much of an option. Where it is an option I don't see a positive percentage of success.
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Old 02-08-10, 12:57 AM
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We've got a guy that is up to around 125 arrests now. And what's worse about it is that most officers actually will go out of their way NOT to arrest him. The only time I arrested him was when he tried to piss on my police car.
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Old 02-08-10, 01:04 AM
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Send them to England, aren't they supposed to be a liberal utopia?
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Old 02-08-10, 06:19 AM
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I don't think there really is a solution to this problem. You can send him to prison as a repeat offender but then when he gets out he'll do it again. Antabuse is great but who says he'll take it. Treatment would be great also but they have to want to be treated.
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Old 02-08-10, 06:28 AM
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Longer prison sentences without possibility of parole or probation, combined with better prison conditions (less overcrowding and fewer opportunities for inmate-on-inmate violence, and more opportunities for education, skilled work experiences, and rehabilitation in prison) so that the longer prison sentences would not be cruel even for the few innocent people who will inevitably get swept up along with the guilty because the criminal justice system isn't foolproof, and so that those who eventually get out will not come out even more damaged than before they entered.
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Old 02-08-10, 07:00 AM
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Go Singapore on his @$$ and give him a good ole public thrashing. Obviously his punishments don't seem to bother him that much...
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Old 02-08-10, 07:38 AM
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Longer prison sentences = spending even more money than the original prison/jail stays for the above offender.
Less overcrowding = spending even more money for better built prisons prisons that can keep prisoners seperated. Keeping prisoners seperated means more money spent on lawsuits from inmates who feel segregated.
Less opportunites for inmate violence = more money spent on more corrections officers and better built prisons. More corrections officers means more money for salaries and benefits.
As stated rehabilitation only works if the person wants it to work. Either way there is no proof positive, cheap nor simple solution.
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Old 02-08-10, 07:45 AM
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Longer prison sentences = spending even more money than the original prison/jail stays for the above offender.
Less overcrowding = spending even more money for better built prisons prisons that can keep prisoners seperated. Keeping prisoners seperated means more money spent on lawsuits from inmates who feel segregated.
Less opportunites for inmate violence = more money spent on more corrections officers and better built prisons. More corrections officers means more money for salaries and benefits.
As stated rehabilitation only works if the person wants it to work. Either way there is no proof positive, cheap nor simple solution.
There's no cheap or simple solution, but all those would be a good use of taxpayer money. Not as good as education, job training, and social services to prevent children from growing up to become criminals in the first place, but certainly better than paying what we now pay for high crime rates, and necessary to protect the sheep from those who fall through the cracks of society and become wolves. I'd gladly pay even more taxes to lower my chances of being victimized by crime.
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Lewisipo and Mack you're both right - unless he wants to help himself, and make a go at being sober and stop his destructive behavior, nothing anyone says or does will make any difference. THere is a slight chance that someone will say or do something to switch the lightbulb on, but he's still the one that has to act on it. Jenna, in some cases what you say is true, but for the most part it doesn't help. Now, in this case we're talking about someonewho is basically a niusance (I'm talking about in the grand scheme of things) He gets drunk and dissorderly etc charges. He has been to jail for longer periods of time, however most of his charges don't warrant state of federal prison. You could put him in prison for 5 years, and unless he has made the decision to change, he won't and will go back to the same behavior over and over again. Granted, at the same time I also feel that some cases merrit locking them up and throwing away the key. I have learnt over the years that there are no easy answers, that what may work for one person may not for another. Our justice system is not perfect, but I think we do the best we can with what we have. It's frustrating as heck most of the time though. - Sorry about the ramble
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Old 02-08-10, 11:11 AM
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There's no cheap or simple solution, but all those would be a good use of taxpayer money. Not as good as education, job training, and social services to prevent children from growing up to become criminals in the first place, but certainly better than paying what we now pay for high crime rates, and necessary to protect the sheep from those who fall through the cracks of society and become wolves. I'd gladly pay even more taxes to lower my chances of being victimized by crime.

Jenna, I hate to say it, but most (read most - not all) offenders won't take advantage of the education, job training and social services that are offered to them. We have good services here, considering we're a relatively small city, and most of my people won't go to these services, and won't follow through - even with jail, and ultimatley prison as a consequence.
In thoery waht you say is great - i just wished it worked more often than not.
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Sounds like that there jail isn't tough enough, they should send him to spend his time with Sheriff Joe in AZ. I know he'd take him in at no cost to the county he's from!
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Old 02-08-10, 01:54 PM
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Sounds like that there jail isn't tough enough, they should send him to spend his time with Sheriff Joe in AZ. I know he'd take him in at no cost to the county he's from!
I'm really curious as to why there aren't programs like his in every state. Politically correct needs to be replaced by you get the respect that you give.

Otis was one thing in Mayberry RFD but this guy this thread is about needs to be part of an invasive medical study.
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He's a drunk. Everyone's got a few like him. Rehab only works when they want it to and will go with the program. Interdiction (prevents 'em from buying booze) just moves them to somewhere they're not interdicted -- or makes them get someone else to buy for 'em.

There's no real solution till these people hit their own rock bottom and choose to help themselves. Like the article said...
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I know of a female in my area who upon reading this I had to go back and check on and as of oct of llast year, she has 162 arrests in the last 14 years and has two outstanding warrants for her arret now.
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Agree with those who suggest the sobriety option, however nothing to make him WANT to get sober. This guy has a lot of room ahead to offend and perhaps take someone else with him. The system treats them as a nuisance, which indeed they are, until someone dies. We used to have civil committment laws and asylums for the insane and habitual drunks. Now it is very tough to get a level III sex-offender locked away.

Had a cousin who bounced back from Montana to Sweden and back again. A habitual drunk who had his D/L revoked in both countries. He had been in jail in countless times in both countres, although the Swede courts gave longer sentences. Fought the cops, started fights in bars, a real "tavern rambo"..... DUI, DV, assaaults...etc. His low point BAC for the day was probably a .16. Most of his crimes were misdemeanors, or plead down to misdemeanors.

It all ended in Sweden. He borrowed or stole a rifle, murdered his two daughters and wife. Barricaded in his cabin. The Swedish police SWAT team sealed the area off and waited him out. He killed himself with the rifle.

His mother said - "shooting himself was the only decent thing he ever did".

Cops are trained to deal with the bad behavior, and by experience we are somewhat hardened to the outcomes of alcoholism. When it comes close at work, or from within the family, we tend to be less detached and less professional. Denial is the major symptom; it occurs everywhere - family, workplace.... even the face in the mirror. Yep, it sometimes really sucks. It gets down to "door A" or "door B".
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Old 02-08-10, 09:21 PM
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Sorry about your cousin, sgtbear111. What a terrible tragedy all around.
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I know of a female in my area who upon reading this I had to go back and check on and as of oct of llast year, she has 162 arrests in the last 14 years and has two outstanding warrants for her arret now.
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