User Name
Password 
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Big Baumshoe
pro-lights

Forum Left Top


Bookmarks

Reply Post New Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-31-08, 02:42 AM
The91Bravo's Avatar
Deputy Sheriff
 
Join Date: 04-01-08
Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 177
Rep Power: 6839
Blackwater Worldwide Hurricane Gustav LEO, Armed Security gig

got this email from a friend from Blackwater Worldwide (Formerly BlackwaterUSA)

If interested, let them know:





Security for Hurricane Gustav

Blackwater is compiling a list of qualified security personnel for possible deployment into areas affected by Hurricane Gustav.
Applicants must meet all items listed under the respective Officer posting and be US citizens. Contract length is TBD.

Law Enforcement Officers (all criteria must apply)

1. Current sworn [may be full time, part time or reserve]
2. With arrest powers
3. Armed status (must indicate Armed and/or Semi Auto. Revolver only not accepted)
expiration must be greater than 60 days out
4. Departmental credentials (not just a badge)
Armed Security Officers (all criteria must apply)

Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK

1. Current/active/licensed/registered armed security officer
2. All training verification [unarmed and armed certificates of completion]
3. Current state issued face card indicting armed status [expiration must be greater than 60 days out]
Applicants will be required to provide an electronic copy of the above required credentials/documents, recent photo within
the last six months with response to this AD prior to consideration for deployment.

Personnel who meet the above qualifications and are interested, please send resumes and files to: 25505@blackwaterusa2.hrmdirect .com
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-31-08, 06:03 AM
maclean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,459
Rep Power: 2040414
I sent a resume out of curiosity.
__________________
Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. If you don't understand that, don't claim logic.

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-31-08, 08:19 AM
Jenna's Avatar
sheep
 
Premium Lifetime Member
Join Date: 06-11-06
Location: the meadow
Posts: 14,069
Rep Power: 2886232
Quote:
Originally Posted by The91Bravo View Post
Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK
Just wondering--why only from these states?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-31-08, 12:38 PM
The91Bravo's Avatar
Deputy Sheriff
 
Join Date: 04-01-08
Location: Clarksville, TN
Posts: 177
Rep Power: 6839
J,

More than likely these states have a reciprocity agreement, so that the armed security guards from those states can enter a gulf coast state and still perform their duties.

just guessing
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-31-08, 04:09 PM
maclean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,459
Rep Power: 2040414
Yup, reciprocity.
__________________
Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. If you don't understand that, don't claim logic.

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-31-08, 04:23 PM
2 Blue 4 U's Avatar
Retired NYPD
 
Supporting Member Lvl 3
Verified LEO
Join Date: 06-07-08
Location: Bronx,NY
Posts: 1,989
Rep Power: 358602
I am surprised they are not accepting applications from retirees, in reality how many active members law enforcement can get away from their own department to work for a contractor.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-31-08, 04:25 PM
maclean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,459
Rep Power: 2040414
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Blue 4 U View Post
I am surprised they are not accepting applications from retirees, in reality how many active members law enforcement can get away from their own department to work for a contractor.

A lot, if Katrina was any indication.

But you're right, retirees should be considered.
__________________
Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. If you don't understand that, don't claim logic.

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-01-08, 08:23 PM
2 Blue 4 U's Avatar
Retired NYPD
 
Supporting Member Lvl 3
Verified LEO
Join Date: 06-07-08
Location: Bronx,NY
Posts: 1,989
Rep Power: 358602
Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean View Post
A lot, if Katrina was any indication.

But you're right, retirees should be considered.

NYPD sent down a contigency of workers and equipment to help out after Katrina, all on the department's payroll. I assumed alot of the outside P.D's also sent down members to assist on their own payroll too, feds may have kicked in to help pay some of the costs.

After Katrina the feds (FEMA) coordinated things better and have created teams with in the department to be deployed when needed. They have received training from the feds thru out the year.

Many departments are short staffed these days and it is hard to get a day off during normal circumstances. I guess that may not be the case every where. If Blackwater or anynother gov't contractor can't recruit enough to fill vacancies their next step would be retirees. NYPD started a volunteer program for retirees who are willing and able to work if ever needed for a mobilization. Sept 11th, severak retirees came to the station house to volunteer, the department had not set policy back then on how to deploy them, had them go to the boros on standby.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-01-08, 09:43 PM
maclean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,459
Rep Power: 2040414
I got a response from the recruiter indicating I would be screened and responded two in two weeks.

Seems a little slow for the type of work requested, but hey.
__________________
Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. If you don't understand that, don't claim logic.

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-01-08, 09:53 PM
Xiphos's Avatar
OR Blogger
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 03-09-08
Location: Thermopylae
Posts: 3,725
Rep Power: 2014212
I would prefer going with my department "on duty" but guessing from the lack of interest upstairs during Katrina it ain't happening now. I emailed Blackwater so we'll see what happens.
__________________
Please support our authors and contributors. Read their articles and leave comments. Thank you!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Police Ride Along
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To protect and serve, despite the pay and benefits.
Ghetto Foot Soldier
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I got off cheap this year. I got my kid a piece of cardboard for Christmas. Why he wanted an “ex-box”, I’ll never know.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Click the image to open in full size.Click the image to open in full size.
4.2.13
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-01-08, 09:59 PM
AlDeputy's Avatar
Master Officer
 
Verified LEO
Join Date: 10-19-06
Location: Pembroke, GA
Posts: 341
Rep Power: 11947
Quote:
Originally Posted by The91Bravo View Post
Only from the following states: OR, WA, CA, NV, NM, AZ, TX, FL, GA, SC, NC, VA, MD, IL, OK
I don't see Alabama on there, my agecy sent down a team to help out during Katrina.
__________________
But you're a deputy, you can't give me a ticket!

Yea Ok, sign here and press hard there are 4 copies!
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-01-08, 10:00 PM
maclean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,459
Rep Power: 2040414
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlDeputy View Post
I don't see Alabama on there, my agecy sent down a team to help out during Katrina.
That list of States is only for security guards so their licenses are valid.

No such limit applies to LEOs.
__________________
Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. If you don't understand that, don't claim logic.

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-01-08, 10:03 PM
Master Officer
 
Supporting Member Lvl 3
Verified LEO
Join Date: 04-16-06
Posts: 1,848
Rep Power: 3801450
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiphos View Post
I would prefer going with my department "on duty" but guessing from the lack of interest upstairs during Katrina it ain't happening now. I emailed Blackwater so we'll see what happens.
Remember -- for the agency, there are often a lot of issues involved in sending someone several states away to help out during an emergency. Think about how complicated it can be just to send someone over the state line or to the next county...

To do it officially, you'd need mutual aid agreements, enough resources to spare them since they'd be many hours away, budget headaches for the overtime and equipment replacement (lots of stuff that went into Katrina was destroyed...), and other things I haven't thought of.

I think wanting to help is commendable. I think helping in any way you can is even better. But don't tar & feather your bosses for realizing that as great as it'd be to send someone -- the logistics don't support it.
__________________
"Don't suffer from PTSD -- Go out and cause it!"
-- Col. David Grossman, US Army, ret.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-01-08, 10:31 PM
TXCharlie's Avatar
Doing it all for coffee & donut holes
 
Supporting Member Lvl 1
Join Date: 12-29-05
Location: Dallas Area
Posts: 5,305
Rep Power: 3126559
Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean View Post
Yup, reciprocity.
Hmmm... Texas Reserves aren't allowed to work off-duty security as police officers in Texas, unless all of the pay goes toward department expenses (or they have a separate Security license, which I'm sure Blackwater could apply for, but it takes weeks to get a State comission to carry a gun as an armed security officer).

I would assume that under reciprocity, Texas laws would apply?
__________________
Official Haiti Relief Sites

Text "HAITI" to "90999" and a donation of $10 will be given automatically
to the Red Cross to help with relief efforts, charged to your cell phone bill


(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
(")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-01-08, 10:56 PM
Xiphos's Avatar
OR Blogger
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 03-09-08
Location: Thermopylae
Posts: 3,725
Rep Power: 2014212
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jks9199 View Post
But don't tar & feather your bosses for realizing that as great as it'd be to send someone -- the logistics don't support it.
Valid points but lots of other agencies sent people and managed, even small ones. My agency is still considered "large" albeit at the bottom of that scale.

We could have done something if we wanted to.
__________________
Please support our authors and contributors. Read their articles and leave comments. Thank you!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Police Ride Along
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To protect and serve, despite the pay and benefits.
Ghetto Foot Soldier
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I got off cheap this year. I got my kid a piece of cardboard for Christmas. Why he wanted an “ex-box”, I’ll never know.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Click the image to open in full size.Click the image to open in full size.
4.2.13
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-01-08, 11:25 PM
maclean's Avatar
O/R Gun mod
 
Verified LEO
Site Moderator
Join Date: 09-05-07
Location: Washington State
Posts: 7,459
Rep Power: 2040414
Quote:
Originally Posted by TXCharlie View Post
Hmmm... Texas Reserves aren't allowed to work off-duty security as police officers in Texas, unless all of the pay goes toward department expenses (or they have a separate Security license, which I'm sure Blackwater could apply for, but it takes weeks to get a State comission to carry a gun as an armed security officer).

I would assume that under reciprocity, Texas laws would apply?
As an LEO, you would not be working as a security guard.

I'm not at all familiar with any Texas laws, so other than that I have no idea.
__________________
Logic is the study of the principles of valid inference and demonstration. If you don't understand that, don't claim logic.

Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentus telum est!

You can be the weapon, and the gun in your hand is a tool - or the gun is a weapon and you are the tool.


I was looking for a saint who was a devil of a lover,
but every girl I found was either one way or the other...


Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-02-08, 03:04 PM
nsb22's Avatar
Crazilicious
 
Verified LEO
Join Date: 12-21-06
Location: cornville
Posts: 2,410
Rep Power: 377197
Hmm, already had two weeks of for the floods, wonder if I can get more time off for this.

If we weren't so short staffed right now, I bet i could. We actually had to shuffle some day people to nights.
__________________


"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear."
-- Ambrose Redmoon

The views and postings of NSB22 are in no way shared or supported by NSB22's employers.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-02-08, 03:18 PM
mack's Avatar
Officer Resource Offical Auctioneer
 
Premium Lifetime Member
Join Date: 05-25-07
Location: SE Indiana, I just know spring will be here soon!
Posts: 3,203
Rep Power: 437635
After Katrina the department I worked for asked for volunteers to man the jails so that officers there could get some time off to go home and see to their families. Although most of us signed up, only a couple from each shift could go due to our own staffing problems.
__________________

My dad, I miss him every day.

Originally Posted by Wolven
Life is too short to wear unsexy underwear.


I am a female!!!!! LMAO

Be who you are and say what you feel.....
Because those that matter...don't mind...
And those that mind...don't matter
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-06-08, 10:21 AM
luckyme's Avatar
Master Officer
 
Verified LEO
Join Date: 06-11-08
Location: Alabama
Posts: 268
Rep Power: 158338
Quote:
Originally Posted by maclean View Post
I got a response from the recruiter indicating I would be screened and responded two in two weeks.

Seems a little slow for the type of work requested, but hey.

The will probably be using it again for Ike, it's looking bad.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-06-08, 08:47 PM
armsmaster270's Avatar
Ret. Sac. P.D. - 270th M.P. Co., Now with D.H.S.
 
Verified LEO
Join Date: 08-11-07
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 2,307
Rep Power: 258704
Too bad I'm old, retired and Broke Dick.
__________________
To Err is human, But to be caught is disasterous

Pretty women make us BUY beer. Ugly women make us DRINK beer. --Al Bundy

http://www.armsmaster.net-a.googlepages.com
Reply With Quote
Reply Post New Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
armed, blackwater, gig, gustav, hurricane, leo, security, worldwide


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump



Forum Right Top
Forum Left Bottom Forum Right Bottom